Re: coordinator
by François Pinard
[Patrick D'Cruze]
> [...] as Pofeng mentions in his email, there may be political consequences
> of using Taiwanese resources/mailing list to develop ZH support for
> GNU/Linux.
One problem is that the Translation Project publishes one team address
per team. Whatever the address we use, the other party might be unhappy.
If technical stunts are avoidable, I would prefer this. But if avoiding
technical stunts create endless problems or irritation, better swallow
the snake and do whatever need to be done.
However, I hope to think that political problems are not so big that we
need technical stunts around them. After all, we are here to collaborate
to a planetary project, not to fight each other...
> Hmm. I'm not sure what the best solution is.
Patrick, if you are available to discuss the matter with Chinese people,
I will be more than happy to not play the intermediary between the Chinese
team and Linux International, as this only slows down discussions. I will
comply, of course, to the solution you will all come up.
Keep happy, all!
--
François Pinard http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard
20 years, 1 month
Re: coordinator
by François Pinard
[Pofeng Lee]
> I am going to resign from the coordinator ( the team leader ). And Mr
> Shyue will take this job. [...] What else we should do ?
OK, I made the changes in the TP registry. Please check:
http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-zh.html
and tell me if I goofed in any way.
> But I think we can set up a mailing list gateway between zh(a)li.org &
> zh-l10n(a)li.org.tw to avoid political problem :-) .
Patrick, would you have `zh(a)li.org' forward into `zh-l10n(a)li.org.tw'?
Doing so, messages sent to `zh(a)li.org' will be seen by `zh-l10n(a)li.org.tw'
members. But if you also manage to send `zh-l10n(a)li.org.tw' into
`zh(a)li.org', I presume loops might occur unless special dispositions are
taken to avoid such problems. Could current `zh(a)li.org' members subscribe
into `zh-l10n(a)li.org.tw'?
> There is an interesting relationship between Mainland China & Taiwan.
> I am afraid that if we change the address, some people would get upset
> about that. Before that, I would stay on zh(a)li.org & zh-l10n(a)linux.org.tw.
Things are not fully set up, currently in the Translation Project, for
having many official addresses for a single team, but if it just cannot
be avoided, I could dive into the robot code and try to manage something.
Thing would be much simpler if we had a single official address for the team.
May we try using the new email address for a while, and see how translators
react? I presume everybody will understand that no offence is intended?
Is that workable, and acceptable?
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François Pinard http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard
20 years, 1 month
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20 years, 1 month
test gateway
by Chinese GNU/LI List
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List: Chinese GNU/LI List
Sender: Pofeng Lee <informer(a)mylinux.cgu.edu.tw>
Subject: test gateway
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:21:04 +0800 (CST)
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test gateway
from zh(a)li.org to zh-l10n(a)linux.org.tw
--
Pofeng "informer" Lee, 李柏鋒, 886-928-554-335 ( 20:00-23:00 GMT+8 )
mailto:pofeng@linux.org-SPAM-tw, an_evil_anti-opensource_nerd(a)mobia.com.tw
Chang Gung Children's Hospital
20 years, 1 month
gateway between zh & zh-l10n
by Pofeng Lee
Hi,
我想我們應該在 zh(a)li.org.tw & zh-l10n(a)linux.org.tw 作個 gateway.
能不能 在 i18n.linux.org.tw 的 /etc/aliases 加
to-zh zh(a)li.org
to-zh-l10n zh-l10n(a)linux.org.tw
剩下的我再來做 ..
--
Pofeng "informer" Lee, 李柏鋒, 886-928-554-335 ( 20:00-23:00 GMT+8 )
mailto:pofeng@linux.org-SPAM-tw, an_evil_anti-opensource_nerd(a)mobia.com.tw
Chang Gung Children's Hospital
20 years, 1 month
Re: coordinator
by François Pinard
[Pofeng Lee]
> Hi, pinard
Call me François (:-).
> I am going to resign from the coordinator ( the team leader )
> And Mr Shyue will take this job.
Thanks for having been there for these past years!
> Shyue, Jing-Jong (������)
> mailto:shyue@sonoma.com.tw
> http://i18n.linux.org.tw/
> mailing list : zh-l10n(a)linux.org.tw
> archive : http://www.linux.org.tw/mail-archie/zh-l10n/
Are we merging zh(a)li.org within zh-i10n(a)linux.org.tw? The address of the
Chinese team is changing? I will presume this is what you want (please
correct me if I misunderstood you). It is easy to change the team address.
Normally, `zh(a)li.org' people should then be instructed about how to move
over to the new list, but you likely took care of these things already?
> I have asked Mr. Shyue to sned his DISCLAIMER.
This is not strictly needed if Mr. Shyue is not a translator, but preferrable
if he is.
> What else we should do ?
Not much. I just have to adjust the registry, and replace the previous
team leader with the new one in the special mailing list for team leaders.
I'll do these things.
--
François Pinard http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard
20 years, 1 month
i18n �{������ƭp������{�p(2000-06-17)
by shyue＠sonoma.com.tw
i18n 程式中文化計劃執行現況
2000-06-17
已完成工作:
1. 每天經由 CVS 自動從 Gnome, KDE mirror 所有的 PO 檔, 並辨認版本與自
動更新資料庫中的相關紀錄. GNU 部分由於主站台沒有提供這種服務, 所以
手動更新.
2. 對於紀錄為 "等待更新" 的檔案, 每週由系統自動寄發 E-Mail 給原翻譯者;
於電子郵件中並以附件夾帶的方式附上 merge 過的檔案.
3. 網站中提供工作檔案的下載, 對於已經翻譯過的套件重新 merge; 對於未翻
譯過的套件使用 xlpotdb 自動翻譯.
(請問 html 中是否可以對一個連結強制自動啟動下載, 弟設不出來說, 必須
要使用者自己用 "另存新檔" 才會存檔)
4. 每天更新翻譯狀況的統計, 統計資料除各類軟體的百分比之外, 同時列出每
個套件的翻譯狀況 (已翻譯數, 未翻譯數, 模糊翻譯數)
5. 位於 zh-l10n(a)linux.org.tw 的通訊論壇 (承中研院 鄭原真 大哥的建置)
6. 二個映射站台, 分別由 "17 實驗農場" 與 "大欣資訊" 提供, url為
http://i18n.shyue.idv.tw 與 http://shyue.sonoma.com.tw
7. 對於回送成果的部分, 目前已取得 KDE CVS Tree 的權限, GNU 部分目前仍
以電子郵件的方式回送, Gnome 部分弟與 Gnome 方面聯絡過, 但沒有回應 :(
不知哪位大大可以幫忙....
8. 譯詞對照表, 這是以 xlpotdb 為基礎, 並加上教育部的譯詞表與所有 PO 檔
的內容.
待完成工作:
1. Gnome 的成果回送
2. 嘗試與大陸方面合作
目前翻譯統計:
Gnome KDE GNU 其他 小計
尚未翻譯 107(74%) 159(67%) 27(79%) 0(0%) 293(70%)
正在翻譯 4(2%) 7(3%) 0(0%) 0(0%) 11(2%)
等待改版 6(4%) 38(16%) 2(5%) 0(0%) 46(10%)
翻譯完成 27(18%) 31(13%) 5(14%) 5(100%) 68(16%)
總計 144 235 34 5 418
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~ Jing-Jong Shyue (薛景中)
'v' E-Mail : shyue(a)sonoma.com.tw
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20 years, 1 month
coordinator
by Pofeng Lee
Hi, pinard
I am going to resign from the coordinator ( the team leader )
And Mr Shyue will take this job.
Shyue, Jing-Jong (薛景中)
mailto:shyue@sonoma.com.tw
http://i18n.linux.org.tw/
mailing list : zh-l10n(a)linux.org.tw
archive : http://www.linux.org.tw/mail-archie/zh-l10n/
I have asked Mr. Shyue to sned his DISCLAIMER.
What else we should do ?
Thanks in advance.
--
Pofeng "informer" Lee, 李柏鋒, 886-928-554-335 ( 20:00-23:00 GMT+8 )
mailto:pofeng@linux.org-SPAM-tw, an_evil_anti-opensource_nerd(a)mobia.com.tw
Chang Gung Children's Hospital
20 years, 1 month
