Zh-l10n-2002

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[Zh-l10n] Re: KDE 3.0 and released languages
by Jouston Huang 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Dear Anthony & Thomas, This Jouston, Kdesktop.po's zh_TW translator. I'm sorry that I postponded Kdesktop.po. Actually I don't know the schedule of KDE3's release so that I didn't notice the translation process. Please kindly mail me if new message comes. Give me a chance to make it better. Best regards, Jouston -- Jouston Huang Linux User ICQ: 12274031 ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Anthony Fok <anthony(a)thizlinux.com> To: Thomas Diehl <thd(a)kde.org> Sent: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 06:48:40 +0800 Subject: Re: KDE 3.0 and released languages > On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 10:44:35PM +0100, Thomas Diehl wrote: > > Like I said, as for the 3.0 release it is up to Dirk Mueller to decide > > if there is still time (and how much). But the sooner you come up with > > something the better I guess. > > >I have just downloaded kde-i18n-zh_{CN,TW}.tar.bz2 and I'll see > > >how much I can borrow from the CN team. :-) > > Sounds like a good idea. ;-) > > Okay, kdesktop.po is now 100% translated. Just needed to clear some > fuzzy entries, and adapted some translations from Wang Jian's zh_CN > kdesktop.po. Took about 1.5 hours. (Again, courtesy of ThizLinux > Laboratory Ltd. because they pay for the work I do. ;-) > > > Yes. Normal criteria are to have kdelibs.po and desktop.po fully > > translated and kdebase around 80%. The more the better of course. But > > we will about always include languages if the maintainer shows up and > > says "it's good enough for release" (or I need a release to actively > > recruit new translators). Main thing is that this stuff is continously > > and actively maintained and that there are clear responsibilities. > > Hehe, it will help when everyone has upgraded to KDE 3.0 first. :-) > Hope more users and vendors can join the effort. > > Cheers, > > Anthony > > -- > Anthony Fok Tung-Ling > ThizLinux Laboratory <anthony(a)thizlinux.com> http://www.thizlinux.com/ > Debian Chinese Project <foka(a)debian.org> http://www.debian.org/intl/zh/ > Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp! http://www.olvc.ab.ca/ ------- End of Original Message -------

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[Zh-l10n] RE: [Zh-l10n] RE: GnuCash 的重覆翻譯
by James_Sa(撒景賢) 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Hi Jouston, 我到是很想看看BOA的網頁操作 :D~~ 您可以抓一些畫面讓我嘹解一下它的流程嗎? 我想GnuCash最可怕的地方就是可以吃Quicken的格式, 看來是可以把台股的部分做上去, 之前無聊,我有想辦法弄到每日的台股報價, 那時想拿來做一些實驗, 如果可以把這些資料匯進GnuCash中, 那一定很酷.而且很有用. James Sa

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[Zh-l10n] Gnome 2.0 Localization for Solaris (fwd)
by R.I.P. Deaddog 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:32:56 +0000 From: Damien Donlon <Damien.Donlon(a)Sun.COM> To: gnome-i18n(a)gnome.org Subject: Gnome 2.0 Localization for Solaris Hi All, Myself and a few others are working out the details of the localization plan for Gnome 2.0 on Solaris. Currently the plan is to do translation for all software to be included in the Gnome 2.0 Solaris release which has not already been completed by other members of the community. We will also be doing translation for the documentation and help content being provided by Sun. So far, the language list is as follows : de German es Spanish it Italian fr French pt_BR Portugese Brazilian ja Japanese zh_CN Simplified Chinese zh_TW Traditional Chinese ko Korean pl Polish sv Swedish We are investigating the possibility of doing some additional languages but these haven't been confirmed yet. All translations will eventually go back into the community CVS tree. We have a number of issues which I'd be _very_ grateful to get input & feedback on. They are : - Given the large amount of translation involved, how do you think we ought to break this up? If we take everything at once and the rest of the community continues doing translations are we going to come unstuck when we attempt to merge our translations back? I know we ought not but want to avoid as much as possible duplication of work between our translation teams and other members of the community. We are thinking about taking it in chunks e.g 6/7 CVS modules at a time thereby reducing the incidence of this happening by having a quicker translation turnaround. What do you think of this approach as opposed to just taking the lot at once? Would community CVS tagging before our translation be useful? - Are all modules now configured correctly to use xml-i18n-tools? Can we rely on "xml-i18n-update --pot" as capturing all localizable content within software, .desktop AND .xml files in the community CVS tree or have some CVS modules yet to be configured to use this mechanism? If so, which modules are not yet configured? - I have seen messages like the following when I attempt to run "xml-i18n-update -pot" for certain modules : basil% /usr/local/bin/xml-i18n-update --pot Option type requires an argument Try `xml-i18n-extract --help' for more information. This appears to mean that I need to tell xml-i18n-extract which xml tags flag the translatable content. How do I make xml-i18n-extract 'know' which tags contain translatable content before I run xml-i18n-update i.e how do I avoid this error if I am automatically iterating through all modules generating the .pot files just using 'xml-i18n-update --pot' to generate the English .pot files? - So far we are aware of the need to add translations to .po, .desktop and .xml files. Is there translatable content in other files? Someone mentioned .server files as containing translatable content. What are they? Are there others? - Some .po files are not yet UTF-8 encoded. If we were to develop a mechanism for checking and converting message files to UTF-8 are we free to do so or would this have 'unforeseen' detrimental side-effects? We'd be grateful for your feedback on these issues or any tips/caveats or warnings about potential translation pitfalls which will help ensure that our translation work goes smoothly. Big apologies for the 'epic' length of this email! Looking forward to your replies. Damien ��`��,��,��`��`��,��,��`��`�� Damien Donlon damien.donlon(a)sun.com 00 353 1 8199225 x19225 _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n(a)gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n

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[Zh-l10n] texinfo-4.1c (48%, 159 untranslated)
by Translation Project Robot 24 Mar '02

24 Mar '02

Hello, members of the Chinese (traditional) team at `zh-l10n(a)linux.org.tw'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/zh_TW/texinfo-4.1c.zh_TW.po has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Chinese (traditional) translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/zh_TW/texinfo-4.1c.zh_TW.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/zh_TW/texinfo-4.1c.zh_TW.po In this file, 387 messages have been translated already, accounting for 48% of the original text size (in raw bytes). Still, 159 messages need to be attended to. Wei-Hon Chen is currently assigned for the translation. Please translate the remaining messages for the benefit of users of the Chinese (traditional) language. Once the translation completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot texinfo-4.1c.zh_TW.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. In the meantime, this PO file has been submitted to the maintainer of programs using the textual domain `texinfo'. Thanks! The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-texinfo.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-zh_TW.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/texinfo-4.1c.tar.gz > ftp://texinfo.org/texinfo/pretests/texinfo-4.1c.tar.gz

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[Zh-l10n] RE: GnuCash 的重覆翻譯
by James_Sa(撒景賢) 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

Hi Abel, 我現在GnuCash的進度是 347 已翻譯的訊息 , 1501 個未譯的訊息. 我是上上星期開始翻譯的, 因為不知道要怎麼認領, 如果有人也在翻譯,那是最好了, :''') <-喜極而泣看看要如何整合, 而且有很多地方想要討論 GnuCash是一個會計的軟體, 會有許多專業的術語, 我都是抓著我們公司的會計在問, 要找到翻譯詞的平衡點並不容易, 因為對象究竟是一般的使用者, 還是專業的會計師? (我很想認識幾個在用Linux的會計師,交個朋友吧:) 如果翻譯的不好,真的對使用者感受有很大的影響. 除了翻譯之外, 我還想來做一些patch,例如抓台股的資訊 (GnuCash還可以抓相關指數(NASDQ,etc),但是台股的部分支援性就較差了一些) 很高興認識大家, 我是使用Debian的James Sa

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[Zh-l10n] texinfo-4.1b (49%, 157 untranslated)
by Translation Project Robot 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

Hello, members of the Chinese (traditional) team at `zh-l10n(a)linux.org.tw'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/zh_TW/texinfo-4.1b.zh_TW.po has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Chinese (traditional) translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/zh_TW/texinfo-4.1b.zh_TW.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/zh_TW/texinfo-4.1b.zh_TW.po In this file, 387 messages have been translated already, accounting for 49% of the original text size (in raw bytes). Still, 157 messages need to be attended to. Wei-Hon Chen is currently assigned for the translation. Please translate the remaining messages for the benefit of users of the Chinese (traditional) language. Once the translation completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot texinfo-4.1b.zh_TW.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. In the meantime, this PO file has been submitted to the maintainer of programs using the textual domain `texinfo'. Thanks! The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-texinfo.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-zh_TW.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/texinfo-4.1b.tar.gz > ftp://texinfo.org/texinfo/pretests/texinfo-4.1b.tar.gz

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[Zh-l10n] lynx-2.8.4.pre2 (23%, 716 untranslated)
by Translation Project Robot 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

Hello, members of the Chinese (traditional) team at `zh-l10n(a)linux.org.tw'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/zh_TW/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.zh_TW… has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Chinese (traditional) translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/zh_TW/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.zh_TW.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/zh_TW/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.zh_TW.po In this file, 377 messages have been translated already, accounting for 23% of the original text size (in raw bytes). Still, 716 messages need to be attended to. Abel Cheung is currently assigned for the translation. Please translate the remaining messages for the benefit of users of the Chinese (traditional) language. Once the translation completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot lynx-2.8.4.pre2.zh_TW.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. In the meantime, this PO file has been submitted to the maintainer of programs using the textual domain `lynx'. Thanks! The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-lynx.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-zh_TW.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > http://lynx.isc.org/gnumatic/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.tar.gz

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[Zh-l10n] 關於訂閱論壇
by Blishs 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

http://www.linux.org.tw/mailman/listinfo/zh-l10n/ 這個網址的submit似乎沒有作用，不論我在windows下用ie跟mozilla 或在FreeBSD下用mozilla跟galeon都沒有作用或現在這個論壇已經不開放了？請指教....

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[Zh-l10n] bison-1.34a (0%, 141 untranslated)
by Translation Project Robot 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Hello, members of the Chinese (traditional) team at `zh-l10n(a)linux.org.tw'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/bison-1.34a.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/bison-1.34a.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/bison-1.34a.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Chinese (traditional) language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `bison'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot bison-1.34a.zh_TW.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-bison.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-zh_TW.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/bison/bison-1.34a.tar.bz2

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[Zh-l10n] lynx 的翻譯.....
by R.I.P. Deaddog 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

<criticize mode> 是我有生以來見過少數最惡劣的翻譯之一。即使是任何只用過英文 lynx 界面的人也不會譯成這樣。除非是翻譯者根本連 lynx 也未用過，或是用十數秒就可以翻譯完那多於 1000 條的 message (用軟件)。這個翻譯沒有進入 lynx 的 source tree 裡真是中文用家的褔氣。 </criticize mode> 嚴厲的說話講完了。正如 Pofeng 兄所說，翻譯是件有點沉悶的工作，但為求速成而粗製濫造，這樣更是要不得，可說是娛己害人，沒翻譯比有翻譯更好 -- 還要浪費使用者刪除掉翻譯檔的時間。想推薦以下的網頁給大家看一看，希望會有所裨益。那是來自候捷的網頁： http://www.jjhou.com/article01-6.htm (網址是由 debian-chinese 轉貼至簡體中文的 mailing list，再轉貼至這裡) Abel

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