21 Feb
2002
21 Feb
'02
2:14 p.m.
Okay, now this is your registry record:
<translator>Abel Cheung
<mailto>maddog(a)linux.org.hk
<url>http://www.deaddog.org/
<disclaimer>
Thanks.
And there is
some additional issue to be discussed: I have specified in the
disclaimer that I want to join both zh_TW and zh_CN if the Chinese team can
be splitted. I think you have mentioned about that some time before, but I
didn't pay much attention to it, since at that moment the effort of
simplified Chinese translation is not strong enough. Now I think it's time
to talk about the splitting again.
Okay. Before taking the action we must talk to the team leader (and
the whole team) to avoid bad feelings. Right now
simplified Chinese has it's official translation team. It's team
leader, Wang Jian, has also signed disclaimer for Chinese team too. So what
should be done to ensure that splitting won't cause any trouble for TP?
Excuse the lack of my knowledge: is it possible to derive language
flavor from the other mechanically (is there a command line tool to do
this task?)? In case your answer is "no", I guess the
cleanest solution is to move
the current 'zh' files and directories to 'zh_CN' (= simplified?) and
then to copy this material to 'zh_TW' as intial translations (in case
you think this is useful).
Perhaps the other way round, since most Chinese translations are for
traditional Chinese(zh_TW) currently. In case this is not good enough,
I am willing to sort them out manually.
Then it is the best to empty 'zh' and leaving
a note there pointing to
the 'zh_TW'/'zh_CN' variants; we did something similar for 'no':
for
the norwegian team we now have 'nb' and 'nn' as active teams.
Yes, the situation for Chinese team is a little similar to nb and nn. This
can be the best arrangement.
Abel
Waiting for your advise (note, I will not have the
time to arrange all
the changes within the next days; around 2002-03-12 I'll have time to do
it -- and I guess Martin is busy, too).
21 Feb
21 Feb
3:05 p.m.
"R.I.P. Deaddog" <maddog(a)linux.org.hk> writes:
It would be good to mail this to both traditional
Chinese and simplified
Chinese translation team -- I've CC'ed a copy of this mail to both
teams. The current "Leader" of Chinese team has quitted translation
team, but I'm not sure why nobody has contacted TP about this. For now,
would it be OK to set the leader of Chinese team to null?
If we are going to split teams, we definitely need a team leader for
the "active" teams, see
http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/leaders.html
The reason is that we need to contact somebody in case of problems,
somebody who speaks the language of the translators. Of course, if a
team is inactive, there is no need to have a leader.
IOW, if we don't have a volunteer for team-leadership of zh_TW, we
should not make the effort to change the status quo. Would you
volunteer?
Perhaps the other way round, since most Chinese
translations are for
traditional Chinese(zh_TW) currently. In case this is not good enough,
I am willing to sort them out manually.
All of them are BIG-5 encoded. That is sufficient indication that they
are all traditional Chinese, right?
Yes, the situation for Chinese team is a little
similar to nb and
nn. This can be the best arrangement.
We'll also need assign translators to the new teams. It would probably
be best if translators would speak up for themselves. Failing that,
and given that most have email addresses from Taiwan and Hong Kong,
would it be fair to move anybody who does not indicate otherwise to
the zh_TW team?
Regards,
Martin
3:43 p.m.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 08:05:12AM +0100, Martin v. Loewis wrote:
It's good enough to know this. Yes, all current translations can be
moved to zh_TW team then.
If we are going to split teams, we definitely need a team leader for
the "active" teams, see
http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/leaders.html
The reason is that we need to contact somebody in case of problems,
somebody who speaks the language of the translators. Of course, if a
team is inactive, there is no need to have a leader.
IOW, if we don't have a volunteer for team-leadership of zh_TW, we
should not make the effort to change the status quo. Would you
volunteer?
OK, I see the problem here. It would be ok for me to take up the
management effort, but I must ask in my team for permission first.
(Since the team is quite inactive, I don't think I have much to
do *grin*)
Perhaps the
other way round, since most Chinese translations are for
traditional Chinese(zh_TW) currently. In case this is not good enough,
I am willing to sort them out manually.
All of them are BIG-5 encoded. That is sufficient indication that they
are all traditional Chinese, right? We'll also need assign translators to the new
teams. It would probably
be best if translators would speak up for themselves. Failing that,
and given that most have email addresses from Taiwan and Hong Kong,
would it be fair to move anybody who does not indicate otherwise to
the zh_TW team?
If nobody speak for themselves, it'd be safe to move them to zh_TW team
except one: Wang Jian, since he is the team leader of simplified Chinese
translation effort.
What remaining procedures should be done before the split?
Abel
22 Feb
22 Feb
2:18 a.m.
"R.I.P. Deaddog" <maddog(a)linux.org.hk> writes:
What remaining procedures should be done before the
split?
None that I can think of, so I just implemented the split. The team
pages are
http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-zh_CN.html
http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-zh_TW.html
Updates to the statistics will run overnight, so you should be able to
see the existing translations to Traditional Chinese show up tomorrow.
Please let me know if I made any errors. In particular, in case you
want to have separate mailing lists, too, please let me know what
mailing list to use for what team.
Regards,
Martin
12:53 a.m.
"R.I.P. Deaddog" <maddog(a)linux.org.hk> writes:
Okay, most iusses are already ansered by Martin.
Yes, you're right, of course. Note, I've saved these translations and
I don't know whether they made it in (and whether they are still
usefull, around August 2000):
. [10103: Jing-Jong Shyue ]<* mixed> some of our new PO files for zh_TW.Big5
(Triditional Chinese)
. [ 15: Jing-Jong Shyue ]<1 text>
. [1040: Jing-Jong Shyue ]<2 text> wget.po
. [5770: Jing-Jong Shyue ]<3 text> lynx.po
. [ 328: Jing-Jong Shyue ]<4 text> grep.po
. [ 378: Jing-Jong Shyue ]<5 text> error.po
. [2536: Jing-Jong Shyue ]<6 text> texinfo.po
I can send them to you for checking and re-submitting.
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In case your
answer is "no", I guess the cleanest solution is to move
the current 'zh' files and directories to 'zh_CN' (= simplified?) and
then to copy this material to 'zh_TW' as intial translations (in case
you think this is useful).
Perhaps the other way round, since most Chinese translations are for
traditional Chinese(zh_TW) currently. In case this is not good enough,
I am willing to sort them out manually.
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