-- Abel Cheung GPG Key: (0xC67186FF) http://deaddog.org/gpg.asc ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 09:17:07 +0100 From: Ashling Donagh Ashling.Donagh@Sun.COM To: godoy@conectiva.com.br, lark@linux.net.cn, maddog@linux.org.hk, redfox@eikonex.org, mawa@iname.com, nakai@gnome.gr.jp, rainlood@kldp.org, cyba@gnome.pl, mbarreiro@red.madritel.es, gpoo@ubiobio.cl, menthos@menthos.com, cgabriel@pluto.linux.it, frob@df.ru Subject: Gnome - Translation Suspension April 19th Hi all, As proposed in the l10n plan sent to you by Damien Donlon, we would like to take a group of modules to start working starting this Friday April 19th. 1st Group ---------- gdict gedit ggv ghex glade gnome-applets gnome-control-center gnome-core gnome-media gnome-utils gperfmeter nautilus I would like you to suspend your translation work on the modules contained in the group. We will do analysis of the translatable content and then come back to you, the coordinators with a return date for the translated files on a per language basis. Typically turnaround time is about 1500-2000 words per language per day but with QA and proofreading generally we are talking about 5 days for 5000 words or thereabouts. However, this may be shorter or longer dependent on the completeness of existing translations for existing languages. We wish to ensure a complete community translation review of translations prior to them being put back into CVS. Thanks Ashling Proposal for forthcoming Sun Gnome 2.0 UI Translation Work __________________________________________________________ This document outlines a plan for coordinating translation work to be done by Sun for Gnome 2.0 UI messages. It is needed to : - avoid duplication of effort between Sun and community translators - define a community review process for Sun translations The current language list for which Sun is funding translations and their corresponding community team coordinators is as follows : de Matthias Warkus/Christian Meyer es Manuel de Vega Barreiro/Germán Poo Caamaño it Christopher Gabriel fr Christophe Merlet pt_BR Jorge Godoy ja Yukihiro Nakai zh_CN Wang Jian zh_TW Abel Cheung ko Noh Woo Kyong pl Zbigniew Chyla sv Christian Rose We wish to do rolling translations on 4 groups of modules and need to coordinate with the community translation teams to ensure there is no duplication of translation work. The 4 groups of modules are : Group 1 Group 2 Group 3 _________________________________________________________ gdict sawfish libgnomecanvas gedit yelp libgnomeui ggv bonobo glib ghex gnome-admin at-spi glade gnome-print bonobo-activation gnome-applets gtk+ eel gnome-control-center gconf eog gnome-core gnome-vfs gnome-desktop gnome-media gtkhtml gnome-games gnome-utils gnome-i18n gnome-mime-data gperfmeter libbonobo gnome-panel nautilus libgnome gnome-session Group 4 ______________________ gtkhtml2 libbonoboui libglade libgnomeprint libgnomeprintui libwnck libzvt metacity metatheme profterm Some of these modules may currently have no translatable strings as the listing is based on a search for po directories in the CVS tree used to build Gnome on Solaris. Also, some of these modules may have complete translations for certain languages already. We prefer to use the rolling translation model on groups of modules because doing translations for individual language and individual module basis would be difficult to coordinate over 11 languages and make a generic process for doing translation review and putbacks into the CVS tree difficult. We would like the process to work as follows : We will forward a translation schedule in due course listing dates when we will take each group of modules. On these dates , coordinators would then suspend their translation work on the modules contained in the group. We'd do analysis of the translatable content and then come back to the coordinators with a return date for the translated files on a per language basis within 1/2 days. Typically turnaround time is about 1500-2000 words per language per day but with QA andd proofreading generally we are talking about 5 days for 5000 words or thereabouts. However, this may be shorter or longer dependent on the completeness of existing translations for existing languages. We wish to ensure a complete community translation review of translations prior to them being put back into CVS and suggest the following process : [1] Once Sun translation work has bee completed we will hand-off the translated files to the community translation teams for review. We will also supply contact names for each language to whom community translation team coordinators can send their review comments. Team coordinators ONLY contact this person please! [2] If a situation arises where things are not going well on either side for whatever reason then escalate it to Ashling Donagh (ashling.donagh@sun.com), otherwise no need to cc her on emails about the review. [3] When you review the translations you need to send us commments NOT changed files. Reason : Because our translators have been translating for Sun for years and they know our style guidelines and use our glossaries we have to give their translations precedence (no offense!) for Gnome on Solaris. But we do want to get community translator input on those translations because of their familiarity with Gnome. Thus we ensure best quality for all. Providing comments as opposed to changed files ensures that community translation teams are free to implement whatever changes they think appropriate for the community release once we commit them. [4] Our translators will implement the community translation team comments. If they do not implement a comment they will flag it and return it to the language team coordinator as "not implemented". If they make any additional changes to those messages already translated by the community they will note it and flag as "changed translated message". [5] If, after 7 days there is no feedback on the files sent to community teams for review then we will assume they are ok and place them back into community CVS. If a community language team is unable to provide feedback within 7 days but wish to do so, or if specific teams have specific 'commit' policy for putting back files then let us know. Otherwise, we shall just commit the files! [6] One important note - everything we hand back will be in UTF-8 encoding and the charmap fielf in the 1st msgid of the .po files will be changed accordingly. When all translations have been completed for all languages on a specific group of modules then we will move on to the next group. In summary the process would be : 1. Sun inform community translation teams that they are taking a group of modules on a specific date. 2. Community translation teams freeze working on those modules at that date. 3. Sun provides community with expected file return date. 4. Upon translation Sun send files to community for review. 5. Community teams provide review comments within 7 days. 6. Sun implement review comments for Solaris Gnome release and flag any comments not implemented to community team coordinators. 7. Sun returns files to community CVS. 8. Move on to next group of modules.