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[zh-l10n] Re: [i18n-chinese] Big5 additional characters
by Mike Lei 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

At lease those characters are not supported by Solaris 8 . the mapping from big5 code to unicode as follows: F9D6 7881 F9D7 92B9 F9D8 88CF F9D9 58BB F9DA 6052 F9DB 7CA7 F9DC 5AFA Mike >From: ianlittle(a)yahoo.com >Reply-To: i18n-chinese(a)yahoogroups.com >To: i18n-chinese(a)yahoogroups.com >Subject: [i18n-chinese] Big5 additional characters >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:38:33 -0000 > >I am interested to know whether the following characters >which are part of ETen and the Microsoft Big5 implementation >are so commonplace nowadays in Traditional Chinese "Big5" >locales that they might be considered to be 'de-facto' >part of the common Big5 standards. > >0xF9D6, 0xF9D7, 0xF9D8, 0xF9DA, 0xF9DB, 0xF9DC > >The Big5 mapping on unicode.org site and the list of >source characters from the original (1984?) Big5 >de-facto standard mapping table (in Unihan.txt for >Unicode 3.1) doesn't include these characters. > >In reality are these characters now so widely implemented >in Tradional Chinese/Taiwanese Big5 locales on all >major information processing platforms (eg windows/unix/mainframe) >that it makes sense to fold them back into the common Big5 >character set and to view them as de-facto rather than >characters which are particular to one or more of the Big5 >extensions? > >--Ian. > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Secure all your Web servers now: Get your FREE Guide and learn to: DEPLOY THE LATEST ENCRYPTION, DELIVER TRANSPARENT PROTECTION, and More! http://us.click.yahoo.com/VihfLB/nT7CAA/yigFAA/23wwlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: i18n-chinese-unsubscribe(a)egroups.com URL to this group: http://www.egroups.com/group/i18n-chinese Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Re: [zh-l10n] Re: [問題]indent.po/indent.pot
by Franklin.bbs＠bbs.cynix.com.tw 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

※ 引述《informer(a)ns1.m2000.idv.tw (Pofeng Lee)》之銘言： > On 22 Aug 2001, Chinese GNU/LI List wrote: >> 發現上頭寫的版本是 1.9.1, 而現在 indent 的版本則是 2.2.6 >> 下載了 indent-2.2.6.tar.gz，發現它裡頭並沒有 .po / .pot 檔。 >> 碰上這種時候，請問各位是怎麼處理？ >> 順便幫它的程式改一改嗎？ >> 還是自己產生一個 .po 檔？ > 隨意瀏覽了一下, 他的程式還沒 gettextize ( gettext + ize ) > printf("message\n") => print(_("message\n")) ; > 除非自己改, 否則沒法產生 pot(po) 那網站上原來的 po 檔又是怎麼來的？如果還沒 gettextize 的話。不然我看程式也不大，我找個機會來試試怎麼用 gettext 來寫好了。 -- 平生無大志但求六十分 -- [1;32m※ Origin: [33m碩誠資訊 [37m<bbs.cynix.com.tw> [m [1;31m◆ From: [36m203.66.82.51[m

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Re: [zh-l10n] Any one translating gimp?
by creeper.bbs＠bbs.cynix.com.tw 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

¡° ¤Þz¡mmaddog(a)linuxhall.xn--orgn g-ygaczlu4vrwf1v > Lio wrote (on) Today: > > =A1=B0 =A4=DE=ADz=A1mmaddog(a)linuxhall.org (R.I.P. Deaddog)=A1n=A4=A7=BB= > =CA=A8=A5=A1G > > =B3=CC=AA=F1=B5=DB=A4=E2=C2=BD=C4=B6Gimp=AA=BAhelp=C0=C9=A1A=A7=C6=B1= > =E6=B9L=B0}=A4l=B4N=AF=E0=A7=B9=A6=A8 > > =A9=A1=AE=C9=ADY=A6=B3=C2=D5=BB~=C1=D9=B1=E6=BD=D0=AB=FC=A5=BF :) > > ps.=A5\=AF=E0=AA=BA=A6W=BA=D9=A1A=AD=EC=ABh=A4W=ACO=A4=A3=C2=BD > You mean the help files from gimp!? Whoa, that means a great deal of work. > Keep on your effort! :) 是的，就是Gimp1.2.2的求助檔 > For those functionality inside Gimp I was dealing with, I just try to > translate those which have widely used translation, was used in other > famous software (e.g. photoshop), or easy to understand ones. I dare not > touch those entries having uncomprehensible meanings or having no good > translation. But there are more than 4000 entries, so need somebody to > review them too. Perhaps I can send them to you for reviewing once > all/some po files are done? 我盡我的力量去翻譯，不過像是Filter的名稱不必要翻得，我就不會去做了如果您願意寄給我的話，我也很樂意看po檔 :-) -- [1;32m※ Origin: [33m碩誠資訊 [37m<bbs.cynix.com.tw> [m [1;31m◆ From: [36m220196.d13-220.ncu.edu.tw[m

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[zh-l10n] [i18n-chinese] Big5 additional characters
by ianlittle＠yahoo.com 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

I am interested to know whether the following characters which are part of ETen and the Microsoft Big5 implementation are so commonplace nowadays in Traditional Chinese "Big5" locales that they might be considered to be 'de-facto' part of the common Big5 standards. 0xF9D6, 0xF9D7, 0xF9D8, 0xF9DA, 0xF9DB, 0xF9DC The Big5 mapping on unicode.org site and the list of source characters from the original (1984?) Big5 de-facto standard mapping table (in Unihan.txt for Unicode 3.1) doesn't include these characters. In reality are these characters now so widely implemented in Tradional Chinese/Taiwanese Big5 locales on all major information processing platforms (eg windows/unix/mainframe) that it makes sense to fold them back into the common Big5 character set and to view them as de-facto rather than characters which are particular to one or more of the Big5 extensions? --Ian. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Secure all your Web servers now: Get your FREE Guide and learn to: DEPLOY THE LATEST ENCRYPTION, DELIVER TRANSPARENT PROTECTION, and More! http://us.click.yahoo.com/VihfLB/nT7CAA/yigFAA/23wwlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: i18n-chinese-unsubscribe(a)egroups.com URL to this group: http://www.egroups.com/group/i18n-chinese Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Re: [zh-l10n] Any one translating gimp?
by creeper.bbs＠bbs.cynix.com.tw 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

※ 引述《maddog(a)linuxhall.org (R.I.P. Deaddog)》之銘言： > As title. Thanks. > Abel 最近著手翻譯Gimp的help檔，希望過陣子就能完成屆時若有謬誤還望請指正 :-) ps.功能的名稱，原則上是不翻 -- [1;32m※ Origin: [33m碩誠資訊 [37m<bbs.cynix.com.tw> [m [1;31m◆ From: [36m220196.d13-220.ncu.edu.tw[m

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[zh-l10n] Re: KDE: Traditional Chinese translation?
by Hans Petter Bieker 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Thomas Diehl wrote: > And what should the directory be named to (considering that we are > about to switch to 3 letter codes anyway)? Anything else which will > have to be adapted after the renaming? If it's for the KDE 2.2.1 release, rename it to zh_TW. Norwegian University of Science and Technology, Engineering Cybernetics bieker(a)stud.ntnu.no / bieker(a)kde.org / +47 97651633 Dagaliveien 25 A | Elgesetergate 23 B N-0776 Oslo | N-7030 Trondheim Siste nytt fra industrien finner du på: WWW.Industri-Informasjon.NO

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[問題]indent.po/indent.pot
by Franklin.bbs＠bbs.cynix.com.tw 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

請問一下我到 i18n.linux.org.tw 上看了看隨手挑了一個 indent.po 發現上頭寫的版本是 1.9.1, 而現在 indent 的版本則是 2.2.6 下載了 indent-2.2.6.tar.gz，發現它裡頭並沒有 .po / .pot 檔。碰上這種時候，請問各位是怎麼處理？順便幫它的程式改一改嗎？還是自己產生一個 .po 檔？ -- 平生無大志但求六十分 -- [1;32m※ Origin: [33m碩誠資訊 [37m<bbs.cynix.com.tw> [m [1;31m◆ From: [36m203.66.82.51[m

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[zh-l10n] KDF start to translate
by Jouston Huang 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

Hi folks, As title, I would start to translate kdf. Anyone who conflicts with me? Jouston Huang

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[zh-l10n] Re: KDE: Traditional Chinese translation?
by Hans Petter Bieker 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Thomas Diehl wrote: > I have to leave that to the people responsible for CVS and kcmlocale > matters (ie to Coolo and to Hans Petter). Maybe they can comment on > this. We will do this after KDE 2.2.1. Even if you changed to UTF-8 in KDE 2.2.1, it will not be smart to rename the translation because it means that the user would have to change the language in kcmlocale again. And changing the .po file encoding isn't really smart unless it's a major release. The reason is that some third part applications may be shipped with the translations, and they should still work after you upgrade. > Personally, I suspect that we won't probably do that for 2.2.1 since > this should only be a bug fix release with minimal code changes. (I'm > also no sure how this naming scheme would break the utf-8 conversion?) It wouldn't break it. And the UTF-8 change is for HEAD only. It should still be supported in KDE 2.2.x. > After 2.2.1 we will probably have a lot of renaming since we are aiming > at a conversion to 3-letter codes. This would be a better occasion to > find a solution for the naming of traditonal Chinese as well. Right. Norwegian University of Science and Technology, Engineering Cybernetics bieker(a)stud.ntnu.no / bieker(a)kde.org / +47 97651633 Dagaliveien 25 A | Elgesetergate 23 B N-0776 Oslo | N-7030 Trondheim Siste nytt fra industrien finner du på: WWW.Industri-Informasjon.NO

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Re: [zh-l10n] Re: 關於 KDE po 翻譯
by 黃峻崢 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

Hi all, 上周末韓國公司Hancom Linux的李小姐跟我談過她們想要對CLE作一些貢獻. 尤其是他們最熟悉的 QT / KDE 上面. (Hancom Linux是Troll Tech在韓國的總代理商.) 如果需要人來 review, 有沒有可能請 Hancom Linux 來幫忙呢？我相信他們會非常樂意來作這件事情. (我跟他們談過可以先從幫忙翻譯KDE po file著手) ps. 抱歉, 我最近shift工作, 實在沒有顧到這裡, 所以遲至今日才說出這個消息. Jouston (Huang, Jiun-Jeng) > Kevin Lo 寫道： >> >> 想信你有看到 Thomas Diehl 的信。我想我們先將所以的 po 檔轉成 utf-8 再說， >> 你覺得呢？若是，那咱麼分頭進行，看你要做那部份，剩下的我來做。 > > 我也是很忙...:) > > 我想一個人來做就好，不然怕會有 inconsistent 的問題。 > 反正我會寫一個 script 來做，基本上做 > 一部份和做全部是一樣的功。 > > 轉 utf-8 本身不是問題，不過有兩個小細節要注意: > 第一是 line wrap 的問題，轉換前要先把被 wrap > 的 line 恢復。第二是 '\' 的問題，轉換前要先把 > double \\ 去掉。這是 big5 獨有的(討厭)問題。 > > 基本上我應該會在這個星期六或日來做這個工作。 > 如果有人要先做也歡迎，我樂得輕鬆。 > > 至於 review 的工作我最近就沒辦法了。 > 要請 Abel or Joe 多幫忙...:) > > > -- > ~ Chih-Wei Huang (cwhuang(a)linux.org.tw) > 'v' CLDP Project : http://www.linux.org.tw/CLDP/ (Coordinator) > // \\ CLE Project : http://cle.linux.org.tw/CLE/ (Developer) > /( )\ I18N Project : http://i18n.linux.org.tw/ (Translator) > ^`~'^ HomePage : http://www.cwhuang.idv.tw/ > > Linux user - Jouston Huang ICQ: 12274031

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