Zh-l10n-archive September 2001

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[zh-l10n] Evolution 進度報告
by JauShiung Liau 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

目前 Evolution 的 po 檔已經大致翻好了，我想接下來要做的就是從頭再檢查一次，有些覺得很難翻的部分可能還要請教大家的意見。其中天氣部分還是翻得亂七八糟，雖然去圖書館找過資料，不過畢竟是民國七十幾年的資料，很多詞句還是硬拗的，希望有時間的話能找到更好的翻譯。現在先問一個問題，Evolution 中有 Address Book 這個詞，Joe Man 兄給我的翻譯是目錄服務，我暫時是直譯為通訊錄，可是之前找到 Evolution 0.9 的時候又覺得目錄服務似乎比較正確，大家覺得這個 Address Book 是指什麼呢？還有， i18n 網站是不是掛了？前陣子我的 e-mail 信箱也掛了，所以可能漏了不少信件，不知道現在的情形如何？ by JauShiung Liau

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[zh-l10n] big5 glimmer for gnome14 updated
by Joe Man 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

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[zh-l10n] translating MrProject. Any objection?
by Joe Man 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

hi, I am going to translate MrProject. Any objection? Joe Man _________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 行萬里路 http://travel.yahoo.com.hk Comprehensive travel guide at http://travel.yahoo.com.hk

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[zh-l10n] gnome20 big5 libgnomeui2.po DONE
by Joe Man 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

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[zh-l10n] 笑話一則
by R.I.P. Deaddog 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

來源：PGP 2.6.3i 的中文翻譯檔 English: "2.6.3i" 中文: "二點六點三唉 (2.6.3i)"

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Re: [zh-l10n] Re: userdrake
by kenduest.bbs＠bbs.cynix.com.tw 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

※ 引述《snailtalk(a)linux-mandrake.com (Geoffrey Lee)》之銘言： > On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 05:07:31PM +0800, JauShiung Liau wrote: >> 簡單的說，這些都是大陸的語法，大概是用 GB 碼的 po 檔直接 >> 轉碼的，因此許多語法跟我們所熟悉的不同，所以還是要等有 >> 人有空把它們整理整理.... > 是的, 誰有時間的話, feel free to take a look and change. :-) 剛剛我把 userdrake 整個 review 過了，把一些用詞不順的地方調整好了，也已經 mail 給 glee 兄囉... -- Kenduest Lee (kenduest(a)cynix.com.tw) I18N Project : http://i18n.linux.org.tw (Coordinator) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- [1;32m※ Origin: [33m碩誠資訊 [37m<bbs.cynix.com.tw> [m [1;31m◆ From: [36mkenduest.tc.cynix.com.tw[m

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Re: [Yes@outlook.com: Re: [zh-l10n] [pablo@mandrakesoft.com: Re: followup on gtk fontset problem.]]
by Geoffrey Lee 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

> > > > > The hanzi are changed from traditional to simplified or viceversa > > > > > automatically by gettext. > > > a problem with this is about the iconv in glibc. When convert > > big5->utf-8->GB, some traditional characters will be lost. Because > > tradtional character that are not in GB2312 will not be mapped > > from utf-8->GB2312. > > No, gettext does transliteration, that is a traditional char is converted to > a simplified one and vice versa. > I tried it and there is no loses, no '?' appear (well, maybe it may happen for > some obscure hanzi; but at least for the generally used it seems to work > well). > > Try for example to launch: > > LANGUAGE=zh_CN.GB2312 LC_ALL=zh_TW.Big5 gnomine > > and > > LANGUAGE=zh_TW.Big5 LC_ALL=zh_CN.GB2312 gnomine > > and see how it works. > Well ... the point is still that there is some problem with the terms used by traditional Chinese users and the simplified Chinese users. I really don't think it is a good idea, in terms of interface ... - G.

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[zh-l10n] Re: Hello!
by Geoffrey Lee 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 03:49:54AM +0800, leo wrote: > Hello, this is Leo from Taiwan. > > I can halp you to translate the po file from english to chinese(big5), > can you give me a po file which must be translated? > Thanks. > What would you like to translate? For KDE and Gnome, it would be best to contact the i18n coordinator directly, but for Mandrake-specific tools: Basically Mandrake tools are (mostly) translated but there are still some untranslated fields, fuzzy fields, or fields which have not been translated well. If you wish to see what po need cleaning up, you can try browsing the CVS. http://cvs.mandrakesoft.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi. You can find all Mandrake tools under the "/soft" directory. The only exception is the graphical installer, which you can find under the "/gi" directory. Thanks for your interest in translation! :-) - G.

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[zh-l10n] Translating libgnomeui in Gnome 2.0! Any Objection
by Joe Man 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

hi, I am translating libgnomeui in Gnome 2.0! Any objection? Thanks Joe Man _________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 行萬里路 http://travel.yahoo.com.hk Comprehensive travel guide at http://travel.yahoo.com.hk

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[zh-l10n] [pablo@mandrakesoft.com: Re: followup on gtk fontset problem.]
by Geoffrey Lee 20 Sep '01

20 Sep '01

All: Please check this out, what is your opinion? --forwarded message-- Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:09:19 +0200 From: Pablo Saratxaga <pablo(a)mandrakesoft.com> To: Geoffrey Lee <snailtalk(a)linux-mandrake.com> Subject: Re: followup on gtk fontset problem. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0us In-Reply-To: <20010916233445.A15083(a)anakin.wychk.org>; from snailtalk(a)linux-mandrake.com on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 11:34:24PM +1000 Kaixo! On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 11:34:24PM +1000, Geoffrey Lee wrote: > > and it works very well... > > so I plan to change the language entries like this: > > > > LANGUAGE=zh_CN.GB2312:zh_CN:zh:zh_HK:zh_TW.Big5:zh_TW > > LANGUAGE=zh_TW.Big5:zh_TW:zh_HK:zh:zh_CN.GB2312:zh_CN > > > > so if a given translation doesn't exist in traditional/simplified Chinese; > > but exists in the other, then it will be displayed, insead of English. > > The hanzi are changed from traditional to simplified or viceversa > > automatically by gettext. > > Do you mean the automatic conversion between GB -> Big5, or vice versa? yes. > zh_TW - > zh_HK or vice versa should be Ok. that doesn't involve any conversion :) > Trouble is, the terminology between GB / Big5 speakers is different ... Yes, but, itsn't it better than displaying in English? it is only in the case where a native translation doesn't exist; then if a translation of the other sort of Chinese exists, then a charset conversion is done and it is displayed. It only happens when a proper translation is not available > If this is the case, this wouldn't be "we have a translation so it must be > better than nothing", it'd just confuse them ... So you think that displaying in English is better? > > - G. -- Ki ?a vos v?ye b?n, Pablo Saratxaga http://www.srtxg.easynet.be/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Geoffrey Lee <snailtalk(a)linux-mandrake.com> 李長風 http://www.wychk.org/~glee $ /usr/games/fortune Anything that can go wrong will go Segmentation fault (core dumped) $

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