Zh-l10n-2001 September 2001

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[zh-l10n] big5 glimmer for gnome14 updated
by Joe Man 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

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[zh-l10n] translating MrProject. Any objection?
by Joe Man 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

hi, I am going to translate MrProject. Any objection? Joe Man _________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 行萬里路 http://travel.yahoo.com.hk Comprehensive travel guide at http://travel.yahoo.com.hk

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[zh-l10n] gnome20 big5 libgnomeui2.po DONE
by Joe Man 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

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[zh-l10n] 笑話一則
by R.I.P. Deaddog 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

來源：PGP 2.6.3i 的中文翻譯檔 English: "2.6.3i" 中文: "二點六點三唉 (2.6.3i)"

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Re: [zh-l10n] Re: userdrake
by kenduest.bbs＠bbs.cynix.com.tw 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

※ 引述《snailtalk(a)linux-mandrake.com (Geoffrey Lee)》之銘言： > On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 05:07:31PM +0800, JauShiung Liau wrote: >> 簡單的說，這些都是大陸的語法，大概是用 GB 碼的 po 檔直接 >> 轉碼的，因此許多語法跟我們所熟悉的不同，所以還是要等有 >> 人有空把它們整理整理.... > 是的, 誰有時間的話, feel free to take a look and change. :-) 剛剛我把 userdrake 整個 review 過了，把一些用詞不順的地方調整好了，也已經 mail 給 glee 兄囉... -- Kenduest Lee (kenduest(a)cynix.com.tw) I18N Project : http://i18n.linux.org.tw (Coordinator) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- [1;32m※ Origin: [33m碩誠資訊 [37m<bbs.cynix.com.tw> [m [1;31m◆ From: [36mkenduest.tc.cynix.com.tw[m

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Re: [Yes@outlook.com: Re: [zh-l10n] [pablo@mandrakesoft.com: Re: followup on gtk fontset problem.]]
by Geoffrey Lee 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

> > > > > The hanzi are changed from traditional to simplified or viceversa > > > > > automatically by gettext. > > > a problem with this is about the iconv in glibc. When convert > > big5->utf-8->GB, some traditional characters will be lost. Because > > tradtional character that are not in GB2312 will not be mapped > > from utf-8->GB2312. > > No, gettext does transliteration, that is a traditional char is converted to > a simplified one and vice versa. > I tried it and there is no loses, no '?' appear (well, maybe it may happen for > some obscure hanzi; but at least for the generally used it seems to work > well). > > Try for example to launch: > > LANGUAGE=zh_CN.GB2312 LC_ALL=zh_TW.Big5 gnomine > > and > > LANGUAGE=zh_TW.Big5 LC_ALL=zh_CN.GB2312 gnomine > > and see how it works. > Well ... the point is still that there is some problem with the terms used by traditional Chinese users and the simplified Chinese users. I really don't think it is a good idea, in terms of interface ... - G.

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[zh-l10n] Re: Hello!
by Geoffrey Lee 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 03:49:54AM +0800, leo wrote: > Hello, this is Leo from Taiwan. > > I can halp you to translate the po file from english to chinese(big5), > can you give me a po file which must be translated? > Thanks. > What would you like to translate? For KDE and Gnome, it would be best to contact the i18n coordinator directly, but for Mandrake-specific tools: Basically Mandrake tools are (mostly) translated but there are still some untranslated fields, fuzzy fields, or fields which have not been translated well. If you wish to see what po need cleaning up, you can try browsing the CVS. http://cvs.mandrakesoft.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi. You can find all Mandrake tools under the "/soft" directory. The only exception is the graphical installer, which you can find under the "/gi" directory. Thanks for your interest in translation! :-) - G.

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[zh-l10n] Translating libgnomeui in Gnome 2.0! Any Objection
by Joe Man 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

hi, I am translating libgnomeui in Gnome 2.0! Any objection? Thanks Joe Man _________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 行萬里路 http://travel.yahoo.com.hk Comprehensive travel guide at http://travel.yahoo.com.hk

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[zh-l10n] [pablo@mandrakesoft.com: Re: followup on gtk fontset problem.]
by Geoffrey Lee 20 Sep '01

20 Sep '01

All: Please check this out, what is your opinion? --forwarded message-- Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:09:19 +0200 From: Pablo Saratxaga <pablo(a)mandrakesoft.com> To: Geoffrey Lee <snailtalk(a)linux-mandrake.com> Subject: Re: followup on gtk fontset problem. X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0us In-Reply-To: <20010916233445.A15083(a)anakin.wychk.org>; from snailtalk(a)linux-mandrake.com on Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 11:34:24PM +1000 Kaixo! On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 11:34:24PM +1000, Geoffrey Lee wrote: > > and it works very well... > > so I plan to change the language entries like this: > > > > LANGUAGE=zh_CN.GB2312:zh_CN:zh:zh_HK:zh_TW.Big5:zh_TW > > LANGUAGE=zh_TW.Big5:zh_TW:zh_HK:zh:zh_CN.GB2312:zh_CN > > > > so if a given translation doesn't exist in traditional/simplified Chinese; > > but exists in the other, then it will be displayed, insead of English. > > The hanzi are changed from traditional to simplified or viceversa > > automatically by gettext. > > Do you mean the automatic conversion between GB -> Big5, or vice versa? yes. > zh_TW - > zh_HK or vice versa should be Ok. that doesn't involve any conversion :) > Trouble is, the terminology between GB / Big5 speakers is different ... Yes, but, itsn't it better than displaying in English? it is only in the case where a native translation doesn't exist; then if a translation of the other sort of Chinese exists, then a charset conversion is done and it is displayed. It only happens when a proper translation is not available > If this is the case, this wouldn't be "we have a translation so it must be > better than nothing", it'd just confuse them ... So you think that displaying in English is better? > > - G. -- Ki ?a vos v?ye b?n, Pablo Saratxaga http://www.srtxg.easynet.be/ PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Geoffrey Lee <snailtalk(a)linux-mandrake.com> 李長風 http://www.wychk.org/~glee $ /usr/games/fortune Anything that can go wrong will go Segmentation fault (core dumped) $

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[zh-l10n] 有關數詞的繙譯 --- 遲來的郵件
by Joe Man 16 Sep '01

16 Sep '01

Hi, 記得早前有人問過關於數詞的繙譯。最近重看了上年頭買下的其中一本 Linuxer 雜誌，發現有一篇談及數詞的文章，現略述如下：- 萬十的四次方億十的八次方兆十的十二次方京十的十六次方垓十的二十次方杼十的二十四次方穰十的二十八次方溝十的三十二次方澗十的三十六次方正十的四十次方載十的四十四次方極十的四十八次方恆河沙十的五十六次方阿僧袛十的四十次方那由他十的六十次方不可思議十的六十四次方無量十的六十八次方大數十的七十二次方因為西方的數詞是以三位劃分，中國是用四位劃分，所以是無法直譯的。但可以如以下方式繙譯：- quadrillion 十的十五次方，姑且稱為 (千兆) quintillion 十的十八次方，就稱為 (百京) sextillion 十的二十一次方，就稱為 (十亥) ..... 希望 Linuxer 雜誌不要介意我發了這個郵件..:) Joe Man _________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 行萬里路 http://travel.yahoo.com.hk Comprehensive travel guide at http://travel.yahoo.com.hk

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